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Cancer cells has a major effect on our culture with roughly 1 in 3 adults in the U.S. detected during their lifetimes. This programs checks out the function of diet as well as health and wellness, with diet regimens high in red and refined meat, sugar-sweetened beverages, trans fats and salt adding to poorer health results. Preserving a healthy and balanced weight as well as consuming a diet abundant in whole grains, vegetables, fruits, and beans can aid prevent cancer cells. Tape-recorded on 05/18/2022. [Program ID: 38193]
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01:06 Donald Abrams, M.D.
60:35 Q&A.
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Amazing thank you !
Excellent! Thank You
Thanks for your excellent lectures on oncology and nutrition. DR.JOYDEV MONDAL, BOLPUR, BIRBHUM, WEST BENGAL INDIA.
Thank you. Feedback change policy for nutrition, go back to nature, change economy of making money from diseases and get money from health, prevention of diseases,greener ,fix the medical system to focus on prevention of diseases and promoting health as the present system of medicine is great for acute accidents and diseases.
Glad you are thinking about the role of diet but very disappointed that the nutrition science is so old and poor…
I find this part quite conflicting.
Mentioned those obese overweight, insulin resistant or diabetes are very high risk group but one of the first recommended diet are minimum 2 cups of fruits and lots of grains. These are all fructose and blood glucose end products.
Canada food guide
Too profitable to change.
I think, people for whom organic whole crops, fish, fruit, and vegetables are not available need a recommendation on whether non-organic ones may serve as the next option compared to traditional non-whole food.
Agreed.
Thank you for great programme.
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Just came from my yearly physical. High cholesterol and border line diabetic from hypoglycemia since I was 17. Nothing changed. Obesity is being glamorized on tv etc. not right. Doctor said I was doing everything right but wanted all these tests done. No thanks. He said no one one knows what causes cancer but tests catch it sooner. Heart attack being fat and stress. Stress will kill you faster than anything in my opinion. Organic and gluten free. Mom died of ovarian cancer. Sister and I got hysterectomy’s. Brest cancer %13 so I’m not worried. BRC 2. Turmeric for inflammation. 10 years organic. Mom lived on puddings and survived cancer for 7 years. Sick but 7 long years. Probably with food in care centers they can’t get nutritional food. Doctors push too many pills.
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That was really great. There is so much conflicting advice out there about what is and is not good for you and your risk of cancer, but this really made a lot of sense especially because he explained what the foods did both good and bad to the body to put you at risk or protect you. I am going to include green tea and mushrooms in my diet now, among other recommendations! Thanks!
Fasting = autophagy. How come a doctor with 39 years of experience doesn’t know that? Jesus !!
I was a bit confused about Prof Abrams’ comments about the ‘vegan’ diet and the Adventist mortality study. That study clearly showed that males eating a ‘vegan’ diet had the lowest relative mortality risk of all diet groups at just 72% of the mortality risk of male meat eaters. Women seemed to benefit less from healthy diets possibly because they already have significant protection from higher levels of oestrogen. In women, pescatarians had a lower mortality risk (81%) relative to meat eaters than vegan women. Taking males and females together pescatarians had lower total mortality risk relative to meat eaters than vegans This however masks the mortality advantage enjoyed by males eating a so-called vegan diet.
“Cancer lover sugar. It doesn´t use oxygen for energy”. Say what now? Since when do normal cells use oxygen for energy? They use oxygen to *efficiently break down glucose* for energy. Exactly like cancer cells. The whole ATP thing, remember?
And if you don´t eat sugar but other carbs instead they´ll use the glucose the carbs get broken down into. And if all you give your body is ketones there´s no reason to assume cancer cells can´t use those.
The reason you see that glucose go to the tumor in your scan is that cancer cells are very metabolically active and so require a lot of energy. They´re greedy for growth and whatever your energy source is they´ll take more of it than normal cells.
@annoyed aussie Yes, it is in Table 4 of the Orlich paper setting out the Adventist mortality results. To be fair, the male pescatarians weren’t far behind the male vegans with 73% of the mortality risk of meat eaters. I eat sardines twice a week myself but Prof Abram’s dismissal of the benefits of a vegan diet seemed misplaced …. at least as far as males are concerned.
I was surprised that Dr. Abrams did not seem aware of the growing evidence that coffee consumption has a direct relationship with the reduction of cancer risk for individuals with diseased livers aka cirrhosis. He spoke rather cursorily about coffee but it’s becoming an established finding in this regard.
All fruit diet the body will heal itself every time
Well, if you care about the environment, not to mention added nutrition and some variety in your diet, you’ll have grass-fed meats and pasture-raised eggs, chicken, and pork. It all tastes wonderful and is full of fabulous nutrients. It’s the cattle put on feedlots to eat grain we have to beware of. Just drive by one of those places if you want to be totally grossed out. *Regenerative agriculture* gives me hope for the future, whether or not I live long enough to enjoy it.
@Tom Goff You make lots of generalizations, assuming, for example, that I’m all for clearing rainforests to raise cattle. I’m not. We can grow enough food using regenerative agricultural methods that help the soil, help the plants, and help the animals, which help us. It doesn’t mean we have to eat meat three times a day. Even just a few times a week, if the meat is grown in a healthy manner, gives incredible nutrition, and it always has or we wouldn’t be here to talk about it. But hey, believe what you like. I’m happy I found out about regenerative agriculture. I think it can solve many of the problems we face today.
Yeah, I wish that I had been able to stop my mom from eating fast food. I took care of her for eight years and I wish that I had had her on a whole food plant based diet.
@Wendy Scott You don ‘t appear to understand what a generalisation is. Also, your statement that red meat is full of incredible nutrition otherwise we wouldn’t be here, makes no sense. You appear not to understand how evolution works and offer no evidence for your claim that it is wonderful nutrition. Wishful thinking and repeated assertions don’t prove anything.
@Sp Chua what misleading info you write, get some more basic information before you exhibit your inadequacy.
@-A Stranger On The Internet `experts` still knows more than you do.
@TONY COLLYWESTON
Yes. Lots know more than I do.
That’s irrelevant to any point I made. It’s an attempt at an insult and an appeal to authority.
Stay on point.
This begins in a very problematic way. That was a pretty secretive disclosure: “I am a scientific advisor to a number of concerns.” Okay. Who are they? Next, he moves to a chart from JAMA. Beside the fact that he does not explain how the article arrived at its figures, which is a massive problem, it says the number one risk factor for mortality and morbidity is diet. It does not say that this is the number one risk factor for cancer. (There are many causal agents for cancer and the connections are not always clearly understood.) In the picture, I don’t see cancer listed on the right side of the document at all, so the document he starts with does not show a causal connection between diet and cancer. What do actual studies show about the connection between what we eat and cancer, and what are the details of these studies, not a government report of any kind, including the WHO, that is extremely slow (usually the last) to catch up with and agree with the latest medical research. I know he does go into some of these studies later in his video.
Although I agree with his recommendation to stay away from processed foods, I’m not sure how convincing I found most of the studies he presented. For example, if you don’t have a weight problem, nuts are healthy to eat. Whether eating them had anything to do with reducing cancer, I rather doubt. There are too many other variables there he doesn’t even consider. Same with exercise. Exercise is healthy and something every one should do. Whether that had anything to do with fewer cancer recurrences is questionable. Too many other variables. And moderate exercise does not cause weight loss. There is also counter-evidence to the red meat causes cancer idea, but it is too complicated to get into here, and I know that is currently accepted as fact just as was Ancel Keys 7 country study of saturated fat, which has since been proven highly flawed. I think down the line, the idea that red meat causes cancer will also be disproven. He also points out that the number one risk for mortality does not include high body mass index or low physical activity. In other words, this study is claiming that death and disease are caused or made worse by diet in people, no matter their body mass index. But what does he then do? He decides to put those three together, and labels them life-style choices. His colleague, Robert Lustig, has made many videos explaining the hormonal aspect of weight gain and satiety, stressing that no one chooses to be fat, especially children.
Then he goes back to a ten year old study to define what foods are bad for you, again, not telling you how they arrived at these problematic conclusions. Fruits and grains are not good for a diabetic or prediabetic to consume or someone with a weight problem. A low carb diet to treat type 2 diabetes does not include fruits, starchy vegetables, whole grains, nuts and seeds (they are too easy to overeat), or milk. All of these raise blood sugar levels, causing a high insulin response, which paves the way for type 2 diabetes. Next, ignoring the previous JAMA study he presented that says that diet is the number one cause for mortality and morbility, he starts out claiming that the number one way to reduce your risk of cancer is to remain a healthy weight. I would say this contradicts the initial study he presented, except that I did not see that the initial study dealt with cancer at all. I know from my own readings that the Cancer Institute points out that there is an unclear connection between obesity and cancer. In other words, they believe there is a relationship between obesity and cancer, but they aren’t sure why or how. They conjecture that high insulin levels play a role (which he does mention). But what is the way to reduce insulin levels and reduce weight? Reduce carbohydrate consumption.
I can’t go through the whole video. He does show that some of the initial claims are wrong in the study he presented about what constitutes a healthy diet. For example, he shows adults should not be drinking milk. But a lot of what he says here is questionable and there are studies that support the validity of these questions. As with so many people, I think he choses studies that support his opinions (and the diet he likes to eat, for example, his attack on eggs, which are actually low in calories, loaded with nutrients, and lower blood sugar. Many diet plans consider them a perfect food). The diet he outlines would not be a good diet for someone with a weight problem or diabetes, which is a large portion of the American public. Virtually everyone agrees with his advice to stay away from processed food for many reasons. By the way, I eat more vegetables every day on a keto diet than most people eat on other diets, so he misrepresents the keto diet.
I must question why when in the hospital due to a cancer (3rd time over 26 years and this one result of radiation that was necessary) the food on the tray was ensure products that list corn fructose as the first ingredient. I couldn’t make myself take it in bc I felt I was defeating all that my surgeon and nurses had done. Not to mention all the pain I went through. Who is making the decision at the hospital kitchen–there are other options–but ensure must be making it worth it to the hospital entities? Kickbacks perhaps.
Ketogenic diet and fasting is a great avenue to research. There are great resources here for these approaches. Please consider as an option for your health.
The NIH says: But with few exceptions, studies of human populations have not yet shown definitively that any dietary component causes or protects against cancer. Sometimes the results of epidemiologic studies that compare the diets of people with and without cancer have indicated that people with and without cancer differ in their intake of a particular dietary component.
However, these results show only that the dietary component is associated with a change in cancer risk, not that the dietary component is responsible for, or causes, the change in risk. For example, study participants with and without cancer could differ in other ways besides their diet, and it is possible that some other difference accounts for the difference in cancer.
When I had cancer I was told by my doctor not to take sugar, dairy, processed food, carbs
My mom’s friend bought Ensure on a regular for my Mom thinking she needed extra nutrition. I didn’t want to insult her but after a few weeks I told my Mom it’s garbage and I don’t want to see it in the house ever again. The ingredients are poison in my opinion.
@Joe K I so agree. I cannot even force myself to donate it to somewhere because I feel if I won’t consume it then why would it be okay for somebody else. There are so many other healthy options. And while I understand that people might not be eating well that still doesn’t overcome that this stuff is not what I would consider nutrition. I think I will just tell folks I am allergic to it or something. Glad I am not alone in thinking these ingredients aren’t good for consumption!!
You got good advice. My gynecological oncologist just said I should lose weight by eating less of everything. 😬After my research I went whole foods unprocessed vegan with no added fats/oils, no added salt, and no added sugar/sweeteners. I eat beans, leafy greens, lots of veggies, fruit, mushrooms, etc.
The likes of you give me hope 💕 Thank you for being a true medicine man!
There is some cognitive dissonance here – advice not to eat sugar which is a disaccharide made up of one glucose and one fructose. So if you are having cancer and not to eat sugar do not eat sweet fruits and starchy carbs such as rice, whether brown or white organic or non-organic.
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