Anna Lembke On The Neuroscience of Addiction: Our Dopamine Nation | Rich Roll Podcast

56 thoughts on “Anna Lembke On The Neuroscience of Addiction: Our Dopamine Nation | Rich Roll Podcast”

1. Just finished listening to her fantastic interview on Dr. Huberman’s podcast and I wanted to hear even more (indicating a dopamine release in my brain, as I’ve now learned). Rich Roll delivers. ✌️ 🌱

2. My son-in-law died from a ‘heroin’ overdose at 36 years old. It turned out to be 100% Fentynol. Sorry for the bad spelling. His 3 children found him. He leaves behind my daughter and 4 beautiful kids…….THANK YOU for your work Anna!

3. A real pleasure listening to these well articulated wise people about such a pivotal and difficult issue in current society.

4. Thanks for watching – I hope you find it helpful and share it with those in your life who are struggling right now. To read more and peruse the show notes visit: https://bit.ly/richroll623

5. “You already had a spiritual awakening. You did it by hitting bottom, and crawling your way back out again.”
   This remark, within the exchange starting at 1:45:00, is deeply, remarkably profound. It is clear that both Rich and Dr. Lembke are gripped by the words they share here. Fascinating.

6. Her message it’s really big. We need more people like her. She has shared a lot with the world about how to have a better life and more if you have struggled with addiction.

7. Me too 😊

8. Me too 😊

9. 2.5 months sober because of AA! It feels great!😊

10. I love all your podcasts, but this one inspired me into action; I went to my first meeting and picked up white chip! I need this to work so I can be present for my 2 sweet baby girls and their father. Thank you 🙏

11. Wow I‘m so happy I don‘t need a story to explain my addiction. My parents were such well meaning people and there was no major trauma in my life. The hard part may be to find the right kind of help. But I‘m inspired to do that now.

12. Snap- me to!

13. one of the best podcasts I’ve ever seen on this topic. Yu are both very brave and honest, you are setting a great example. You guide us moving forward toward honesty, truth, and healing. Thank you!

14. I am so sorry ❤

15. I had the same “ahaa moment” when I heard her say this!

16. Amazing podcast! The part of the podcast where Rich talked about being raised in an “achievement-oriented household” really resonated with me. I don’t know if this is the case in all such households but, in my case, it was just a mask for conditional love. I figured out from a very young age that if I wanted my parents’ love, validation, and attention, I would have to perform. Neither of my parents were emotionally available so, when I did perform, I usually just got emotional breadcrumbs. When I raised my own children, both of whom are adults now, I made it a point to tell them often (and still do) that they are loved unconditionally, that they have intrinsic worth apart from their accomplishments, and that there is nothing they can do to make me love them any more than I already do. Both are still motivated to achieve things in life but it is for the right reasons and not to get their parents’ love.

17. Bought the book. Found myself saying “Wow” multiple times. Such an important discussion. Thank you, Rich.

18. Growing up in a screen world, my first dopamine hits came from playing lego racers on the PC. I found myself going to the computer every morning with my coffee when I grew up. The other day I did a dopamine detox and noticed how much my mind would gravitate back towards wanting to go on the computer. Addiction comes in many different outlets, I feel like habitual practises can lead to addiction in such a subtle way. Just being & meditating has helped my attachments to things lesson but discipline needs to be applied.

19. Agreed – she really hit it on the mark when she said that.

20. ​@Larry Flynn There is room to fall further, yes. Running sounds like a habit for you, but it is probably a useful and productive habit which generates positive energy in your life and relationships. Even if you engage compulsively, it is not disruptive.
    At any time, any of us could slip into addictive tendencies. Most of us (hypothetically) have healthy relationships with our habits, for whatever reason, and so we don’t think so much about this stuff all the time.
    The addict, on the other hand, HAS crossed the threshold into disruptive, addictive behavior. Often through no ‘fault’ of their own. To recover, many have literally conceded to a higher power in the process (hence the spiritual awakening bit). Addicts then seem to be more frontally aware of how any novel influence risks a slip into addiction. They need that skepticism in order to keep their lives on track (or at least, that’s the rule set they’ve conceded to).
    Not sure if that addresses any confusion. Best wishes to you!

21. I am a RN who has spent half a 37 year career working in corrections and Behavioral health. I found this conversation spot on in its message and contentions. At the same time it was relaxed and incredibly humble, thank you both. I go to work tonight a little less jaded and slightly more empathetic. Bob Ahlborg RN

22. She totally changed my view on my addiction and actually alleviated a lot of my pain. Everyone should know about her work. It would make the world much better place

23. Same

24. 20:40 really changed my perspective, up until now I felt inferior that I did not have specific trauma to blame for addiction, and that was making detox a lot harder, not having anyone to be mad at but yourself

25. Hey, man. This is gold and can change broken parenting relationships. Thank you so much for sharing this. Peace!

26. Watching my friend’s difficulty with diabetes dietary changes … I’ve realized sugar is an addiction. Insulin just allows people to keep using their favorite drug. Our grocery shelves are full of sugar … Even in bread, peanut butter, meats … Even dog food. Crazy.

27. I have found listening to Annie Grace really helpful with alcohol addiction, you might too? She’s utterly relatable and science based 👍

28. What an incredible conversation. I have watched it twice and will keep at it. So much rich content, depth, balanced, graceful understanding between both of you.

29. I hope that your staying on track and still sober.

30. I really love this episode with Dr Anna, in the scientific world and also having a second view of addiction, but there’s also one factor that is missing, the God Factor. Some of the things that happen that cannot be explained by science, is usually divine intervention.

31. @Dog-gone That’s simplifying it, isn’t it? It’s much easier for someone to describe it this way. Now, it’s a long journey to actually do this.

32. @Betty Boo I’ll take this suggestion for another look at something that I might bite into. Not having some major trauma that we can remember, doesn’t mean that we haven’t experienced several small traumas along the way that have affected us.

33. It doesn’t work. Try getting real help.

34. HOw are you doing today Kelly?

35. I love your ability Rich to articulate. You truly touch my heart in the deepest way in your ability to touch on “how” & “what” “addiction” really is…you are amazing!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️ ❤️❤️

36. Hi, Alexander X 2 — I appreciate your comment. Yes, something about “Just being & meditating” that seems to both mitigate the crash from over-doing dopamine and steer the regular meditator away from chasing D.. It might be as simple as cognitively reframing the depression flavored anhedonia that inevitably follows a dopamine hike: “Hey, I’m not simply bumming because I overdid dopamine, I’m meditating like a champ.” It could be something more subtle at the neurochemical level — if one persists with meditation, their mind learns to feed itself serotonin, creating peaceful contentment (and focus) instead of craving dopamine. For whatever reason, meditation works to alleviate the ups an downs of both exaggerated dopamine chasing and everyday life. Take care, DAN

37. Sugar addiction is harming me, but i can’t stop no matter how i try to stop eating it.

38. True, I think the only way to mitigate this is to have regulation with the sugar content of foods sold in the supermarket.

39. So true, I am fighting my sugar addiction right now. I beat my nicotine addiction 4 months ago with no problem, sugar on the other hand I feel I will be fighting for a lifetime.

40. hi Kelly, bit late here. however i am keen to know how yr doing. cheers

41. @none one a better qualified Life

42. The story that says that opioids help to experience some transcendental meditation experiences is nonsense….. because probably it works short-term.
    The body creates its own medicine and serotonin and adrenaline, melatonin dopamine and other chemicals.

    But as Dr. Joe Dispenza says these meditation experiences are not chemical… he says everybody thinks it’s chemical, but it’s not chemical but an “electro-magnetic” feeling.
    So how some drugs can make such an effect on meditation long-term? It’s nonsense. It works only if you stop thinking about your identity and problems and focus only on goals or even the small goals in a humble way.

    I think if opioids make such an effect it’s an accident, it’s not every day, and it’s also a very short-term effect.
    The ones who promote opioids and say it helps you and your wellbeing and mediation are just ignorant people who want to sell the drugs.

43. This was a great interview Rich but I think it is misleading to compare people in recovery treating themselves with psychedelics to those getting treatment in a clinic under supervision from a clinician and how beneficial that can be. I was 13 years sober in AA when I underwent Ketamine treatment at a clinic for PTSD and it was absolutely transformative and filled in many of the pieces of the puzzle for me that AA never could. People should be encouraged to find their healing pathway not run from it out of fear as a result of AA dogma.

44. Same here😇🥰❣

45. @none one i agree And actually she did say its exactly what it is,(Shifting to a less harmless addiction ) Which is why in mind it was like: if years later your life surrounds around the same theme how did you overcome anything

46. @none one oh yeah and the cult thinking too(and other things that ppl dont mention) btw arent all programs funded while real solutions not researched or prohibited

47. @D M not prroojecting/ they got cofee and smoking allowed Result?ppl smoke a lot and drink cofee But thats ok if you like it

48. @D M and btw ,,,,Finding a group of people who understand you is also possible outside too
    I thought it was great thing finally finding ppl that really understand my pain and I did that for 1 -2 yrs untill i realised that validation was short term relief and eventually ppl with the same problems like you cant help Can empathise and give you an idea here or there you feel among friends /cool/ they got the same psychological profile and think the same way like you…thus you can repeat your problems a decade feeling relief and accepted but not solving them
    I eventually concluded that even talking n trying to figure out my issues after the 1st month wasnt helpfull bcoz you keep absorbing the fact you have problems and sadness/ instead of rewiring your brain

49. Glad for you. Stay strong, you’ll meet a type of people that are open, caring, humble. They’ll still have faults so be patient. It’s way better on this side of life.

50. This was an incredibly truthful conversation about the nature of addiction. Thank you Rich.

51. @Dog-gone I doubt that your simplistic dogma is going to be very useful for people dealing with addiction.

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